On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> Anyway, on the wustl archive, all I get is a blank screen saying "Can't open
> list of recent uploads" I am using the thing which is unique to each user
> though

you conncet to wustl? what for man! use a mirror with less overhead :-)

alan

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@clara.net>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Saturday, 06-Nov-99, 08:01:57
 About:  [afb] Re: webmap 


Hello Thomas,

> Yes, don't use an imagemap, because they are the suckiest addon to
> HTML ever devised and do a great job of making users leave your side
> without touching a link.

Leave your side?  ;-) Just what sort of attraction do you have on your
website?

But seriously (cue silly noises), image maps are a thorough pain in
several ways:  your site becomes virtually inaccessible for the blind;
new web users don't always realise the image map goes to different
URIs, depending upon where abouts it's clicked; pages are unnavigatable
if you don't load images...

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Neil Bothwick <neil@wire.net.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Wednesday, 10-Nov-99, 01:32:30
 About:  [afb] Re: Single big prefs program 


Hello Neil,

>>> Create a Prefs menu in Opus' User Menu Settings and drag the
>>> contents of your prefs drawer onto the window. There you go, a big
>>> prefs launcher from a single menu :)
 
>> Interesting: Open the User Menu editor, multiselect a pile of files
>> from a lister, and drag them into the menu editor (like you'd
>> normally drag and drop one file. Menu editor gets full of corrupted
>> garbage.
 
> Judging by this and your posts to the Opus list, there's something
> wrong with either your copy of Opus or your copy of the manual :)
> 
> You *did* drop them onto the Item listview didn't you? Trying to
> create a menu (as opposed to a menu item) for each program is unlikely
> to have the desired effect (unless you desire garbage).

I did exactly what I described above.  Dragging and dropping a single
program from a lister works as expected.  Selecting a group and
dropping it fails spectacularly.  If there's something wrong with my
manual or program, well there's nought I can do about that, and one
manual would be a lot better than two (old one, plus update).

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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On 9 Nov 1999, Oliver Roberts wrote:

> Hasn't anybody heard the latest?  BT will supposedly be offering
> unmetered calls for net access next month!  It's perhaps no surprise
> that U-Net/Wirenet canned their 0800 weekends thingy :)

heard it on the news this morning.....just have to wait for them to
implement it
 
alan

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> A true nerd would let his mate dial in on the second line to share his net
> connection :D

....thats easy to set up, but with a basic modem connection you're going
to have 2 computers trying to use a measly 56k modem connection

alan

> Thomas Hurst babbled:
>  
> > Erm... Workbench is a shite little file manager/app 
> > launcher... Windows is an entire OS, you can hardly
> > compare them.
> > Even if you did, Workbench would loose every time, because 
> > it's crap.
> 
> 'Loosen' or 'lose'?  Would you care to expand on 'crap'?

Lose. 

Crap because, technically (and pedantically) Workbench is
not an OS - merely an application launcher and file manager.

Compare Workbench to the Active Desktop, Compare Exec to
Windows, but don't compare Workbench to Windows. They
just *don't* compare.

Either way, Workbench is pretty lame.

> > Even AmigaOS is pretty shite; no memory protection, 
> > resource tracking, memory compression,

Since when has Windows had memory compression? It compacts
it's pagefile to save harddrive space, but that's hardly
memory compression.

> > extent, and all things expected of a modern OS.
> 
> You wandered onto the wrong list?
> Time to invest heavily in asbestos, methinks.

The funny thing is that he's absolutely right.

Only a fool would think that AmigaOS is a viable
alternative to Windows regarding the functions Neil
was talking about.

Only a fool would judge an OS on how many times it
crashes, or how many scathing articles there are
in the news.

Only a fool would scorn Windows merely because of
a monopoly.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Richard Drummond wrote:

> I'm working out how to do a diabolic smiley . . .

}:%D>

alan

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Henry Chung wrote:

> Can You help me?:
> 
> - My Apollo 060 Card is still kept by Analogic. They don't reply my e-mail 
> for 4 months.

certainly...get your favourite legal representative straight down onto
them like a ton of bricks

> - I was consider to buy PPC 603e for my A1200 but it's out of stock.

which ones and all dealers?

> - My basic A1200 is useless now.

with a plain 020, certainly

> - G4 card is not yet finished.

well, cant helpyou with that - wait another 3 months is all i can say

> My question is what can I do at the moment?

see answer to point one

alan

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Sealey, M. <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Wednesday, 10-Nov-99, 20:41:55
 About:  [afb] Re: Windows and Workbench 


Hello M.,

> Only a fool would scorn Windows merely because of a monopoly.

Maybe so, but it still sucks.  ;-)

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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hi,

> Erm... Workbench is a shite little file manager/app launcher... Windows is
> an entire OS, you can hardly compare them.

?????? Win32 is the operating system. Windows is a clumsy, memory
hogging and crash prone GUI which uses even more programs to attain its
features.
 
> Even if you did, Workbench would loose every time, because it's crap.

 
> Even AmigaOS is pretty shite; no memory protection, resource tracking,
> memory compression, proper threading... all things Windows has, to some
> extent, and all things expected of a modern OS.

AmigaOS doesnt need memory compression, it has better threading than
windows..and yes, it doesnt have memory protection or resource tracking,
but windows says it does but still crashes when a program misbehaves
 
> Maybe, but if important files have been replaced (.dll's etc) you still
> should reboot. Just like if you'd upgraded a library on the Amiga...
> 'course, Under Linux, the worst you have to do, provided it's not a kernel
> update, is "init 1"... oh well :)

on the Amiga, if no program is using the replaced library at the time,
you dont need to reboot...the next time the library is used, the new one
will be called instead...not exactly rocket science, but a very
efficient system.
 
> Yeah, well, Windows sucks as a server. AmigaOS as a server... don't make me
> laugh, AmigaOS is about the least suited OS on the planet for being a
> server.

no OS should be a server. server client/app software should all be
seperate from the OS. 
 
> And for the trillionth fsking time, *PC != Windows != PC != Windows* !

correct. A PC running a decent operating system is quite a nice machine
to use.
 
> Because the Amiga wouldn't act as a server? Because the Amiga doesn't have
> any apps that come close to the complexity of such modern applications?

.....errr, now i know you dont know what you are talking about
 
alan

> hi,
> 
> > Erm... Workbench is a shite little file manager/app 
> > launcher... Windows is an entire OS, you can hardly
> > compare them.
> 
> ?????? Win32 is the operating system.

Doink! Win32 is an API set.

> Windows is a clumsy, memory hogging and crash prone GUI
> which uses even more programs to attain its features.

Windows is far from clumsy or crash prone. It does suck
memory up like a dry sponge, but if you honestly think
that Windows' main feature is that it's crashworthy, then
think again. 

> on the Amiga, if no program is using the replaced library at
> the time, you dont need to reboot...the next time the library
> is used,  the new one will be called instead...not exactly
> rocket science, but a very efficient system.

Which would work in Windows if you didn't have to register
each and every DLL file with the system to ensure security
and proper resource tracking.

> > Because the Amiga wouldn't act as a server? Because the 
> > Amiga doesn't have any apps that come close to the
> > complexity of such modern applications?
> 
> .....errr, now i know you dont know what you are talking about

It is possible to set an Amiga up to be a pretty well functioning
low-end NT 'clone' workstation - i.e. do your basic file/printer
sharing, TCP/IP rotuing, ftp/http serving stuff.

Don't expect it to fair better than Windows though.

And anyone who tells you Windows sucks as a server doesn't know
what they're on about. Windows doesn't suck as a server, it just
doesn't do much in a better way than any other server system.

Only the mentally blind would chide a desktop OS on the basis of
it's totally-seperate-architecture Server brethren.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:

> Hi,
>     I just purchased a PCMCIA Ethernet card to network my Amiga to my Mac's
> ethernet port, I just want to dl files from my Mac, but I don't know much
> about networks so any help will be appreciated :).

you dont know anything about networks...and plan to use an ethernet link
between the Amiga and Mac? good start! ;-)

run Miami on the Amiga...and i hope you've got all the TCP/IP stuff
installed on the Mac...if so, then its just a case of giving them local
network names/numbers so they can talk to each other.

alan

On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> Yeah, but it doesn't mean we like our drives!
>=20
> I have a 1.3 gig quantum which does cold boot, dies at any angle greater
> than 1=B0 and takes ages to initiate.
>=20
> I also have a really noise seagate which I use as a backup ( o:) ) but it=
s
> annoyingly loud=20

well, it usually works out that the biggest answer is the most popular
drive make....if you dont like your old Quantum, for example, get a nice
new 4.3Gb fujitsu drive for 60 ukp

alan

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Chris Andrews wrote:

>   "Aggghhh!  Dad, can you not walk down the stairs again for the next 20
> minutes?!"

stick a penny onto the stylus

alan

Hi Godzilla,

> It most definately *IS* Line-UX pronounced after Linus (Pronounced
> Line-US) Torvalds the creator of Linux.

...whose name is actually pronounced Leenus...

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hi,

> Still searching the WWW, using workds like picture Amiga motherboard
> A1200 no ROM. Still no hits that are of any use to me. There is a rev
> 1A motherboard pic on the Aminet, and many assorted revisions in the
> Big Book of Amiga Hardware. There are 2 problems with these pictures,
> the resolution is not high enough (I'd need 3x the number of pixels
> horizontally and vertically to see the mystery mark I have got) and all
> the pictures are of motherboards with the ROMs still plugged in. I need
> one without the ROMs so that I can see the tracks underneath the
> sockets to see if mine are damaged.

quite a specialised picture then...i havent seen my motherboard got
about a year now (when i installed my BVision). perhaps you did install
the ROMs incorrectly and a higher voltage passed through one of the
tracks... 
 
> Bearing in mind this entire egroups thing is stuffed full of HTML, I'm
> supprised anyone noticed my use of HTML! Thats the only way I could get
> the link to work, typing in http, a colon and the address did not cause
> a link to be created in preview mode.
 
> Normally I wouldn't bother with HTML, but I didn't think anyone wold
> mind an extra 20 or so characters of text, so I put a hyperlink in.

 
> Might I enquire what you use to read these groups? I'd like nothing
> better than to point a news reader at them rather than a web browser. 
> I find this egroups interface slightly annoying, and I'd love to use a
> plain text news/mail reader instead.

errm, i..and many others...use email to write to the list - when you
setup your account you can get it to mail the items to your
mailbox...then you just use your email program..think i'd spend all day
just clicking on links? ;-)

alan

Hi M.,

This is a list to enlighten Amiga users about just how wonderful *their*
machines are, not to endlessly discuss Windows. I know that a few of you on
this list work with Windows every day, and some don't have jobs as double
glazing salesman, haha, but seriously though folks, let's leave that side
of things alone, eh?

All the best,
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On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Oliver Masters wrote:

> Yes. And how much is your current monthly internet phone bill? Mine's abo=
ut
> =A350, so =A310 a month for 0800 access would suit me fine thank you very=
 much.

0800 is being dropped all over the place. unmetered calls for just 10
ukp a month would be practically the same thing. yes, i could see myself
going straight for this too! :-)

alan

hi,

> Just tried it and it worked perfectly. I'll have to RTFM one of these days ;-)

well, one of these days i'll actually have a look at the DOpusII
companion C that i bought! ;-)

alan

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Chris Andrews wrote:

>   It makes interesting reading to see that some telcos in the states want
> to reverse the idea of free local calls, especially to ISPs.

:-) well, they rushed headlong into 'free local call' systems...and now
find that their networks are severely loaded with data traffic for 8
hours each day because of net calls...they can see a possible extra
income from this huge amount of call traffic. 

alan

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Mateus S. Daitx wrote:

> I believe that you will be able to buy a G3 card from Met@box in the Cologne
> show, I will try to find more about this with the guy that is making the 68K
> emulation for the board(he is in the AmigaBR list) but on Czech Amiga News I
> found that this may be true. It is not as fast as G4, but is better than
> nothing.:-)

well, if it has a gfx connector on it, there could be good future
expansion for it too.

by the way, i've just heard that the PIV voodoo module might not be made
after all!

They've been quiet since the preorder level was reached..more news in a
weeks time on their site -> Ben, you want to hunt up on this dire
situation (well, dire for those PIV people who thought they'd gte a ncie
3D module!)...this is also going to affect those developers making 3D
games...their market is now only the CV3D (not too hot for 3D) and the
market of CVPPC and BVPPC owners...which is small because Phase5 stopped
making the cards after just 3 months...and now DCE are supposed to be
taking up the manufacture of them (good on them!)

alan

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Jonathan Day wrote:

> Oh yeah, do we all need to re-register our setups now that the client will
> give us improved performance?

..reregister? do you mean send your new speeds to Thomas as his
Distributed Amiga web site? If you want to...only if you want to.

pity about the change in output info...Myzar can start the beta client
quite happily...but you only see the blocks in and out bar updated...the
progress bar doesnt show progress...well, it is just a 'buggy' beta

alan

On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, Steve Machin wrote:

> its great.All those hacks and cludges making my old 3.0 os unstable and slow
> are gone for good know.Time for a beer me thinks.

yep. i was on my machine last night quite happily using it..it seems
fresher and faster than its ever been. 

I'm now using SetMan...looked at the setmanlister...150 tasks! my
BVision sure does make quite a few redirection calls 8-|

alan

On 9 Nov 1999, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> Except U-NET (not Wirenet) decided to drop 0800 a week before this
> announcement was made by BT.

err, yes...but they probably knew what was coming...they know whats
going on in the telecomm industry

alan

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Andrew Gillen wrote:

> Just donate it to a charity of your choice :) 

talking of charity..can everyone on this list visit

http://www.thehungersite.com

on a daily basis

alan

First of all I know there is a proper mailing list for this kind of
thing but mailing here alows me to get possible replies the same day.

I`m not sure that this is so much a problem or that I dont fully
understand the software.

First of all, how can I write a datatrack in MODE2. Make cd just
informes me that iso images must be 2048bytes when this option is
selected.  On my dads PC I am able to store data in mode2. I want to
use mode2 as I believe it takes up less room on the cd.

Second problem is that I only seem to be able to store a maximum of 628
meg of data onto a cd.  What happend to the maximum of 650megs.  I
checked on of the Amigaactive cds and it has 651megs stored in
Datamode.  Just for the sake of this test I made an image of this track
and tried to write it back to a blank cdr. This would not work as
makecd claimed that there is not enough room on the cdr, so how did
thay get 651 on the cd.

My writting settup is:

Makecd3.2b Update 1
Mitsumi 4804te

Matt
------

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Ken Walsh wrote:

> Amiga 1200 in tower
> 7 slot Zorro
> Blizzard 1260 32mb with SCSI
> 2 GB Scsi drives
> 32X SCSI CD
> 3.1 ROMS
> PC Keyboard
> CD's bits n bobs you know...
>=20
> Price =A3350
>=20
> he also brought it round to my house :-)

!! you lucky lucky b*****d !! 8-)

alan

hi all!

wow, the best news for the past month! :-)

the new Amiga developer CD 2.1  is about to be released...this will have
all the latest developer stuff for os3.5 and more!

Ben, make sure this is in the mag!

alan

..oh, sorry, the info for anyone interested!

(it'll be at the Koln show!)

AMIGA Developer CD V2.1 is available soon!=20
Suggested Retail Price DM 49.00
US$1.00 =3D DM 1.88 given current exchange rates.

*************************************************************************=
AMIGA Developer CD V2.1

This CD contains all the material you need to start developing software f=
or
Amiga computers.

This includes:

The new 3.5 Native Developer Kit:

  o Updated and revised `C' and assembly language header files and linker
libraries=20
  o Updated and revised system documentation and tutorial texts=20
  o Example code covering the AmigaOS 3.0, 3.1 and 3.5 features=20
  o The NewIFF v39 package=20
  o The AmigaGuide adn DataType documentation and example code=20
  o WarpUP (PowerPC) developer documentation and examples=20

Additional developer material:=20

  o BOOPSI gadget and image classes=20

ReActor BOOPSI toolkit and example code

  o The AmigaOS 2.04 example code, as part of the original 2.04 Native
Developer Kit=20
  o The RKM 2.04 code examples=20
  o Tables listing which operating system modules were added, removed or
updated in subsequent AmigaOS releases=20
  o The complete set of registered IFF forms=20
  o IFF example and stress test files=20
  o All IFF packages released by Commodore-Amiga, Inc., covering 1986 thr=
ough
1992=20
  o The camd v37.1 MIDI developer kit=20
  o The SANA-II standard package and developer kit=20
  o The Installer v43.3 package=20
  o The CDTV developer disks=20

International support material:=20

  o Sample text using the full ISO-8859-1 character set=20
  o Translation guidelines=20

Reference material:=20

  o The collection of Amiga Mail Volume 1 articles, covering Spring 1987
through January/February 1989=20
  o The complete Amiga Mail Volume 2 articles in AmigaGuide format, cover=
ing
January/February 1990 through March/April 1993; also included are the
printable issues in PostScript and PageStream format=20
  o The Includes & Autodocs in AmigaGuide format.=20
  o Revised Amiga ROM Kernel Reference Manuals in AmigaGuide format=20

HTML versions of all AmigaGuide format manuals

Historical developer material:

  o DevCon Disks (1988-1993)=20
  o The CD32 developer package=20
  o 1.3, 2.0, 3.1 Native Developer Kits=20

Packages contributed by 3rd parties:

The StormC 68K C/C++ developer package

  o The WBPath and ActionFSSM packages, courtesy of Ralph Babel=20
  o The Personal Paint, CopyIcon, MailBX and DirDiff packages, courtesy o=
f
Cloanto=20
  o The INet 225 developer kit, version 2, courtesy of Interworks, Inc.=20
  o The Picasso96 developer kit, courtesy of Alexander Kneer and Tobias A=
bt=20
  o The Miami SDK, version 2.1, courtesy of Nordic Global, Inc.=20
  o The CyberGraphX V4 developer kit, courtesy of Frank Mariak=20
  o The MMUlib package, courtesy of Thomas Richter; this package includes=
 the
MuForce tool which is derived from the Enforcer package developed by Mike=
 Sinz
(see below)=20
  o The Kiskometer and MakeCD packages, courtesy of Angela Schmidt and Pa=
trick
Ohly=20
  o The Enforcer v37.64, courtesy of Mike Sinz=20
  o The Envoy v3.0 developer kit, courtesy of Heinz Wrobel=20
  o The Wipeout, Blowup and Sashimi debugging tools and the "CheckGuide"
AmigaGuide file syntax checker written by Olaf Barthel=20

Available on November, 15th 1999. This CD will also be sold on the Home
Electronics World in Cologne next weekend.



alan

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Tim Seifert wrote:

> Yeah, but a softkicked ROM would fix that, and fix any faults still
> present in a ROM.

as discussed already, you need an MMU to remap a ROM properly. and
software needs to be ncie and legal...or it'll cock up everything.
(this would reduce the market down to those with better 020/030/040/060
cards)
 
> many other people.  ;-)  And pirating ROMs is dead easy.  If you can
> read their contents (which you can), you can write them too (given the
> appropriate, and quite common, hardware).

its not 'dead easy' you have to buy (or make) an EPROM writer...and then
sell the ROMS. free piracy is a rife market...people are less likely to
pay for a pirated copy of software when they can get the real thing for
not much more

alan

Hi Alan,

> its not 'dead easy' you have to buy (or make) an EPROM writer...and then
> sell the ROMS. free piracy is a rife market...people are less likely to
> pay for a pirated copy of software when they can get the real thing for
> not much more

Particularly when the OS ROMs are bigger than most readily available
EPROMs...

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Hi Alan,


> by the way, i've just heard that the PIV voodoo module might not be made
> after all!

I shall ask Herr Neumeier of Village Tronic when I see him this weekend.

All the best,
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             PGP key available upon request
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Oh my god, it's going to piss down!

On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 10:11:55AM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> Only a fool would judge an OS on how many times it
> crashes, or how many scathing articles there are
> in the news.

Actually, I think judging an OS on how many times it crashes is probably
fair enough. OSs are supposed to work.

> Only a fool would scorn Windows merely because of 
> a monopoly.

No, I have many other reasons :)

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Sealey, M. wrote:

> Doink! Win32 is an API set.

no, Win32 is the kernel. its how it is referred to in binary
distributions
 
> Windows is far from clumsy or crash prone. It does suck
> memory up like a dry sponge, but if you honestly think
> that Windows' main feature is that it's crashworthy, then
> think again. 

given a choice between the Win95 GUI and the Win98, i'll take the 95
non-exploritised version any day. i've even got a program that will take
out the 98 exploiter stuff and give you back the 95 'core' - it speeds
up windows usage by a noticeable factor..even on a PII-400

> Which would work in Windows if you didn't have to register
> each and every DLL file with the system to ensure security
> and proper resource tracking.

system library files should require a reboot. application library files
shouldnt. the applications shouldnt be running (most installs ask you to
kill running processes anyway)..and therefore their resource trackign
can start at NULL 

> It is possible to set an Amiga up to be a pretty well functioning
> low-end NT 'clone' workstation - i.e. do your basic file/printer
> sharing, TCP/IP rotuing, ftp/http serving stuff.
> Don't expect it to fair better than Windows though.

it will fair the same. my 'you dont know anything' remark was aimed at
his 'there are no modern feature apps for the Amiga' statement
well, if he'd care to ask what 'modern feature' can be defined as and
what apps he is on about then we might be able to discuss. otherwise I
can give a list of latest Amiga software which is just as feature full
as the 'big boy' stuff - and which has allt he modern features required

 
> And anyone who tells you Windows sucks as a server doesn't know 
> what they're on about. Windows doesn't suck as a server, it just
> doesn't do much in a better way than any other server system.

:-) it depends on the comparison, really.

"Windows sucks as a server compared to a server-configured Linux system"
would be correct

> Only the mentally blind would chide a desktop OS on the basis of
> it's totally-seperate-architecture Server brethren.

;-) exactly. and i believe that server stuff should be seperate from the
actual OS anyway. all the OS needs to be able to do is know how to
handle the features required for such tasks

alan

Hi Alan,

Next email I have to wade through about Windows will earn its writer a
ban...

> On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Sealey, M. wrote:

>> Doink! Win32 is an API set.

> no, Win32 is the kernel. its how it is referred to in binary
> distributions
> 
>> Windows is far from clumsy or crash prone. It does suck
>> memory up like a dry sponge, but if you honestly think
>> that Windows' main feature is that it's crashworthy, then
>> think again. 

> given a choice between the Win95 GUI and the Win98, i'll take the 95
> non-exploritised version any day. i've even got a program that will take
> out the 98 exploiter stuff and give you back the 95 'core' - it speeds
> up windows usage by a noticeable factor..even on a PII-400

>> Which would work in Windows if you didn't have to register
>> each and every DLL file with the system to ensure security
>> and proper resource tracking.

> system library files should require a reboot. application library files
> shouldnt. the applications shouldnt be running (most installs ask you to
> kill running processes anyway)..and therefore their resource trackign
> can start at NULL 

>> It is possible to set an Amiga up to be a pretty well functioning
>> low-end NT 'clone' workstation - i.e. do your basic file/printer
>> sharing, TCP/IP rotuing, ftp/http serving stuff.
>> Don't expect it to fair better than Windows though.

> it will fair the same. my 'you dont know anything' remark was aimed at
> his 'there are no modern feature apps for the Amiga' statement
> well, if he'd care to ask what 'modern feature' can be defined as and
> what apps he is on about then we might be able to discuss. otherwise I
> can give a list of latest Amiga software which is just as feature full
> as the 'big boy' stuff - and which has allt he modern features required

> 
>> And anyone who tells you Windows sucks as a server doesn't know 
>> what they're on about. Windows doesn't suck as a server, it just
>> doesn't do much in a better way than any other server system.

> :-) it depends on the comparison, really.

> "Windows sucks as a server compared to a server-configured Linux system"
> would be correct

>> Only the mentally blind would chide a desktop OS on the basis of
>> it's totally-seperate-architecture Server brethren.

> ;-) exactly. and i believe that server stuff should be seperate from the
> actual OS anyway. all the OS needs to be able to do is know how to
> handle the features required for such tasks

> alan


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On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 matt_madmatt@hotmail.com wrote:

> First of all I know there is a proper mailing list for this kind of
> thing but mailing here alows me to get possible replies the same day.

well, that would be true if this list had a lot of MakeC users ;-)
 
> First of all, how can I write a datatrack in MODE2. Make cd just
> informes me that iso images must be 2048bytes when this option is
> selected.  On my dads PC I am able to store data in mode2. I want to
> use mode2 as I believe it takes up less room on the cd.

well, i will say RTFM at this point. but at least you have your config
at the bottom of the mail, so you're being somewhat helpful.

to be honest, i had the same problem..but i actually did the obvious
thing and emailed the authors.

you need to set an ENV: variable....its something like
ENABLE_WRITE_MIXED_MODE2 or somesuch...i set it years ago, so cant
recall- i'd suggest you run snoopdos and note the ENV checking that
fails...dont worry about the 10 other fails..just the MODE2 one.

once you've seen the fail, just edit a file in envarc:  called the
variable name...and just type a 1 into it. reboot, sorted!
 
> Second problem is that I only seem to be able to store a maximum of 628
> meg of data onto a cd.  What happend to the maximum of 650megs.  I
> checked on of the Amigaactive cds and it has 651megs stored in
> Datamode.  Just for the sake of this test I made an image of this track
> and tried to write it back to a blank cdr. This would not work as
> makecd claimed that there is not enough room on the cdr, so how did
> thay get 651 on the cd.

the 650Mb is a 'bare medium' value.the actual storage value is less. the
651Mb of the AA CD is the total size of the data on the CD and the
leadin, leadout and directory data tracks. 

I wouldnt suggest copying Amiga CD's either :-|

alan

hi,

> Next email I have to wade through about Windows will earn its writer a
> ban...

fair enough....I'll avoid :-)
 
alan

Hello Tim

On 10-Nov-99, you wrote:

> There have been the occasional program released on a record (one of
> those floppy types that could survive being mailed).  The idea was for
> you to copy it to a tape.

I recall having at least one of those floppy vinyl things, i think i got
it with a speccy mag, i think.

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Hello Tim

On 10-Nov-99, you wrote:


>>> One of the old school naughty tricks was to replace fuses with lower
>>> values, so they'd blow all by themselves (this dates back from when
>>> unskilled labor was used - they just replaced several valves that
>>> usually died).
> 
>> Now they just tell ya its this or that, when most of the time its
>> just dry joints.
> 
> Which are manufacturing defects, *and* which /technically/ you can hold
> the manufacturer accountable for, no matter what the guarantee period
> is.

What i was getting at was that tv repair men dont need to the old tricks
no more, in my own experience most tv's i have had fixed were just dry
joints, but if i had taken the tv/s elsewhere (to somebody i dont know)
it/they would most likely need new tube, nicam board or what ever.

Regards
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Hello Tim

On 10-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Not really.  I already have 3.1 ROMs, and I suspect so do many many
> many other people.  ;-)  And pirating ROMs is dead easy.  If you can
> read their contents (which you can), you can write them too (given the
> appropriate, and quite common, hardware).

well can ya make me a set of roms, but using an image of 3.1 roms after
thay have been patched by OS3.5.

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Hello Alan

On 10-Nov-99, you wrote:

>> Because the Amiga wouldn't act as a server? Because the Amiga doesn't
>> have any apps that come close to the complexity of such modern
>> applications?
> 
> .....errr, now i know you dont know what you are talking about

Apache springs to mind.

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WITH you.

> > How many Kkeys should i expect on an apollo 1240/33
> > I am currently only getting about 28 - ive heard that with an 060
its
> > possible to get over 100!! i would have expected at least half of
this
> > with my 040

Hi Neil. 
 My 040/25 gives me about 24 so your amount is about right.  The speed
increase between 020/030/040/060/ppc is *not* proportional, whatever
anyone might tell you.

Bifford the Youngest.

> > First of all, how can I write a datatrack in MODE2. Make cd just
> well, i will say RTFM at this point. but at least you have your config
> at the bottom of the mail, so you're being somewhat helpful.

Sorry about that, I was not sure whether or not to include the config
or not as in this case i did not believe it mattered.

> to be honest, i had the same problem..but i actually did the obvious
> thing and emailed the authors.

I tried emailing makecd@core.de as mentioned in the doc but it just
bounced back.
 
> you need to set an ENV: variable....its something like
> ENABLE_WRITE_MIXED_MODE2 or somesuch...i set it years ago, so cant
> recall- i'd suggest you run snoopdos and note the ENV checking that
> fails...dont worry about the 10 other fails..just the MODE2 one.
> 
> once you've seen the fail, just edit a file in envarc:  called the
> variable name...and just type a 1 into it. reboot, sorted!
>  
> > Second problem is that I only seem to be able to store a maximum of
628
> > meg of data onto a cd.  What happend to the maximum of 650megs.  I
> > checked on of the Amigaactive cds and it has 651megs stored in
> > Datamode.  Just for the sake of this test I made an image of this
track
> > and tried to write it back to a blank cdr. This would not work as
> > makecd claimed that there is not enough room on the cdr, so how did
> > thay get 651 on the cd.
> 
> the 650Mb is a 'bare medium' value.the actual storage value is less.
the
> 651Mb of the AA CD is the total size of the data on the CD and the
> leadin, leadout and directory data tracks. 

Another test I did was to coopy all the files to a partition and remake
the cd, but the same problem occured. there realy are about 650 megs of
files.
The partition I use for cd usage has a blocksize of 2048 which I assume
will give me a more relighable way of knowing how much will fit on the
cd.
 
> I wouldnt suggest copying Amiga CD's either :-|

No, that was just for the sake of the test. I would not pirate amiga
software.
I baught the drive mainly for backing up my amiga partitions and
compiling a few usefull cds for myself.
 
Matt
------

> >   "Aggghhh!  Dad, can you not walk down the stairs again for the
next 20
> > minutes?!"
> 
> stick a penny onto the stylus

He, he.  Ive had to do this for my old player.  Only problem is now the
drive belt has stretched ever so slightly so certain LPs Slloooowwwww
doooowwwwnnn somewhat.  Anyone got a spare pair of nylons?

Bifford the Youngest.

P.S.  (Bee Gees sounds *so* good slowed down!)

Hello Ben

On 10-Nov-99, you wrote:

> Next email I have to wade through about Windows will earn its writer a
> ban...

Sorry ben, i sent a mail before i read this mail.

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----------
>From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
>To: afb@egroups.com
>Subject: [afb] Re: Ethernet Networking Amiga to Mac
>Date: mi=E9r., 10 novi 1999 07:34
>

>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>     I just purchased a PCMCIA Ethernet card to network my Amiga to my Ma=
c's
>> ethernet port, I just want to dl files from my Mac, but I don't know muc=
h
>> about networks so any help will be appreciated :).
>
> you dont know anything about networks...and plan to use an ethernet link
> between the Amiga and Mac? good start! ;-)
Well just peer to peer networking using a serial cable.

>
> run Miami on the Amiga...and i hope you've got all the TCP/IP stuff
> installed on the Mac...if so, then its just a case of giving them local
> network names/numbers so they can talk to each other.

I have Miami(DX), but don't know how to configure it.  On the Mac Side I
have OT and I'm using Hotline FTP server and address 192.168.1.1. Subnet
mask 255.255.255.0 (Those numbers were a friend's advice, who is a Mac
expert). On the Amiga I have a CN40BC card, when MiamiInit starts
configuring it, it reports an error message saying "Miami is unable to open
device "cnet.device" unit 0. The device might be in use. Error 0"

Both Link and TX/RX leds are on. Link led is green and TX/RX is amber.

I have tried using FUSION and installing MacOS7.5 and MacTCP and Anarchie
Pro as the FTP client, I got error -43 file not found , on the Mac side OT
and Hotline ftp server.




> alan
>
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"alan l.m. buxey" <kcci-@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=36137
> 
> On 8 Nov 1999, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> > There was a bug in the installer in that there were two sligtly
> > different 5.81 updates circulated, and this update was only tested
with
> > the latter one. A new one should be up any time now.


The patch is now available to download :)

Bifford the Youngest.

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Alan Bailey <alan.bailey@ukonline.co.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Wednesday, 10-Nov-99, 21:44:02
 About:  [afb] Re: TV-repairs 


Hello Alan,

>>>> One of the old school naughty tricks was to replace fuses with
>>>> lower values, so they'd blow all by themselves (this dates back
>>>> from when unskilled labor was used - they just replaced several
>>>> valves that usually died).
 
>>> Now they just tell ya its this or that, when most of the time its
>>> just dry joints.
 
>> Which are manufacturing defects, *and* which /technically/ you can
>> hold the manufacturer accountable for, no matter what the guarantee
>> period is.
 
> What i was getting at was that tv repair men dont need to the old
> tricks no more, in my own experience most tv's i have had fixed were
> just dry joints, but if i had taken the tv/s elsewhere (to somebody i
> dont know) it/they would most likely need new tube, nicam board or
> what ever.

And if it were your Amiga, a new motherboard, and a new IDE interface is
the only way you can get your hard drive to work (according to them),
etc, etc.

I had a VCR require new heads, shortly before the warrantee expired.  I
sent it in for repairs, and they guy listed off an expensive repair job
to fix it.  You could hear his jaw hit the floor, when I mentioned,
"you know this is a warrentee job?"

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Alan L.M. Buxey <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Wednesday, 10-Nov-99, 21:56:33
 About:  [afb] Re: 3.5 wishlist update notification 


Hello Alan,

>> many other people. ;-) And pirating ROMs is dead easy. If you can
>> read their contents (which you can), you can write them too (given
>> the appropriate, and quite common, hardware).
 
> its not 'dead easy' you have to buy (or make) an EPROM writer...and
> then sell the ROMS. free piracy is a rife market...people are less
> likely to pay for a pirated copy of software when they can get the
> real thing for not much more

I think you'll find that EPROM burning is a lot cheaper than CD-ROM
burning, equipment-wise.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Alan Bailey <alan.bailey@ukonline.co.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Wednesday, 10-Nov-99, 21:48:28
 About:  [afb] Re: 3.5 wishlist update notification 


Hello Alan,

>> Not really. I already have 3.1 ROMs, and I suspect so do many many
>> many other people. ;-) And pirating ROMs is dead easy. If you can
>> read their contents (which you can), you can write them too (given
>> the appropriate, and quite common, hardware).
 
> well can ya make me a set of roms, but using an image of 3.1 roms
> after thay have been patched by OS3.5.

No.  I won't.  ;-)  Just because I'm argueing it's easy to do, doesn't
mean I'm saying it should be done.  The fact that I run a video
production house might give you a clue about my thoughts on copyright.

And for those that can't work it out for themselves (piracy is a major
financial disaster for us, particularly when you expect to recoup a
major part of your costs for recording an event with multiple dubs of
it).

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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> Hi Neil. 
> My 040/25 gives me about 24 so your amount is about right.  The speed
> increase between 020/030/040/060/ppc is *not* proportional, whatever
> anyone might tell you.

As a rule, generations of Motorola processors are twice as fast
at the same clock speed as their predecessor.

The 060 at 50Mhz is twice as fast as an 040 at 50Mhz which is twice
as fast as an 030 at 50Mhz.

Real values are different, but the general rule is: twice as fast.

(020's don't come in 50Mhz flavours so they don't count)

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Hi Peter,

On 09-Nov-99 this ASCII block fell out of your virtual mouth: [afb] Re: 3=
=2E5 wishlist update notification

>> Not all Amigas have the ability to softkick a ROM (you need an MMU
>> for that)
> =

> I used to softkick 1.3 on my basic A1200 to play old games, and from
> memory they dont have an MMU. (been a long time since I used a basic
> A1200, so I cant remember).

Are you taking about ReloKick? IIRC, that uses a heavily patched 1.3 ROM
image.

Regards, Andrew Bell.
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Tim Seifert said, 

>> You *did* drop them onto the Item listview didn't you? Trying to
>> create a menu (as opposed to a menu item) for each program is unlikely
>> to have the desired effect (unless you desire garbage).

> I did exactly what I described above.  Dragging and dropping a single
> program from a lister works as expected.  Selecting a group and
> dropping it fails spectacularly.

Where, exactly, did you drop the icons?

You need to create the menu before you can drop anything into its Item
list.


Neil
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Tim Seifert said, 

> But seriously (cue silly noises), image maps are a thorough pain in
> several ways:  your site becomes virtually inaccessible for the blind;
> new web users don't always realise the image map goes to different
> URIs, depending upon where abouts it's clicked; pages are unnavigatable
> if you don't load images...

The latter is the fault of the browsers. They should display the ALT
text when the image isn't loaded. A blind user should be OK because
a speaking browser ought to handle the ALT text. If there's no ALT text
it's the fault of the page author, and just as limiting as individual
images without such text.

Client side image maps are a good idea that suffers in the
implementation.


Neil
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Before they invented drawing boards, what did they go back to?

> ...CVPPC and BVPPC owners...which is small because Phase5 stopped
> making the cards after just 3 months...and now DCE are supposed to be
> taking up the manufacture of them (good on them!)

If DCE decide to sign the license! According to WhiteKnight, phase5
have given DCE the license and all it needs is a signiture. Come on!!!
I'm STILL waiting!

Paul
=====
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pre-ordered Wipeout2097...
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Hello Jonathan

On 09-Nov-99, you wrote:

> My answer yesterday got shredded by the e-groups mail limit.

  That's all right, two wyttes be farre better than one :) 
  ( yes, being pedantic again; so what? ) 
  Let me know if you want the "prize", I would never send anything without
permission, especially something useless ;-)
> 
> IMHO, Amiga is stressed on the second syllable while Omega is stressed on
> the first.

  More seriously, thanks you for confirming. Imo that means these words
cannot
be easily confused; I knew the pronunciation for Omega, but Amiga is not
mentioned in Daniel Jones' dictionary ( neither is clitoris, don't know why
)
  
  Bye,

  Patrice

"alan l.m. buxey" wrote: 
> The CDTV developer disks=
> The camd v37.1 MIDI developer kit
good to know thats there in,... what would we all do without them,...

> The collection of Amiga Mail Volume 1 articles, covering Spring 1987
> through January/February 1989=20
well that good,.. i always wanted to know how to write code without
using any disk based system calls,... 1.3 rom`ers unite.

> 1.3, 2.0, 3.1 Native Developer Kits=20
1.3 cool,. i will have to re-write my fancy mui stuff now then and use
intuition..!.

> Hello Jonathan
> 
> On 09-Nov-99, you wrote:
> 
> > IMHO, Amiga is stressed on the second syllable while Omega 
> > is stressed on the first.
> 
> More seriously, thanks you for confirming.

Amiga Pronunciation: [AH0 M IY1 G AH0]

a MEE ga

Omega Pronunciation: [OW0 M EH1 G AH0]

O may gah

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Hey

I go to a school which uses RM's filtering and recently they have
filtered all of Cucug. I have sent an e-mail to them complaining but so
far has had no effect. What i am asking is if you afb reads could do me
a favour by sending a complaint to RM about Cucug being filtered by
them. Try to convince that there is no reason to filter Cucug. They
filter sites mainly because of chat and 'offensive material' so tell
them that there is none or very little. You can contact them at
<filtering@rmplc.co.uk>. So pleas do me a favour by complaining to them
to get this great site unfiltered.

                         Thanks
                             Necronlord (Peter) 
 

> "alan l.m. buxey" wrote: 
> > The CDTV developer disks=
> > The camd v37.1 MIDI developer kit
>
> good to know thats there in,... what would we all do
> without them...

You'd be lost for bootable CDs or MIDI sequencers :)
 
> > The collection of Amiga Mail Volume 1 articles,
> > covering Spring 1987 through January/February 1989
>
> well that good,.. i always wanted to know how to write
> code without using any disk based system calls,... 1.3
> rom`ers unite.

What are you on about?
 
> > 1.3, 2.0, 3.1 Native Developer Kits=20
>
> 1.3 cool,. i will have to re-write my fancy mui stuff
> now then and use intuition..!

If you're trying to be sarcastic about the content of
the CD - with emphasis on how much of it could be
potentially useless - then you're not doing it very
well.

So far you've proved yourself to be a complete dickhead
bent on finding fault with anything anyone says. Ah well,
your loss.

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"sealey, m." wrote: 
> So far you've proved yourself to be a complete dickhead
> bent on finding fault with anything anyone says. Ah well,
> your loss.
Hum,.. interesting view,.. if only your mouth was as narrow as you
views,..
the world might be a better place,.. given that you reply to almost
EVERY post, proving yourself to a giant EGOTIST and obviouslt not smart
enough to see a joke when you read it.

Ough and if you think your hard, mail me personaly i doubt anyone else
wants to listen to your CONTINUAL SPOUTING.

-matthew 

Hi all,

> "sealey, m." wrote: 
>> So far you've proved yourself to be a complete dickhead
>> bent on finding fault with anything anyone says. Ah well,
>> your loss.
> Hum,.. interesting view,.. if only your mouth was as narrow as you
> views,..
> the world might be a better place,.. given that you reply to almost
> EVERY post, proving yourself to a giant EGOTIST and obviouslt not smart
> enough to see a joke when you read it.

> Ough and if you think your hard, mail me personaly i doubt anyone else
> wants to listen to your CONTINUAL SPOUTING.

Please do ignore Sealey's outbursts. I've had words with him and I'd hate to
waste the limited bandwidth on this list with moaning about him. Alan,
don't take what he said personally - the more opinions the merrier.

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> "sealey, m." wrote: 
> > So far you've proved yourself to be a complete dickhead
> > bent on finding fault with anything anyone says. Ah well,
> > your loss.
>
> Hum,.. interesting view,.. if only your mouth was as narrow as you
> views,..

:)

> the world might be a better place,.. given that you reply to almost
> EVERY post, proving yourself to a giant EGOTIST and obviously
> not smart enough to see a joke when you read it.

Jokes have smileys at the end.

> Ough and if you think your hard, mail me personaly i doubt anyone else
> wants to listen to your CONTINUAL SPOUTING.

Sssh! Ben will get mad!

> -matthew 

It must be a common trait.

Mental note: try not to name kids 'Matthew'.

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"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
> Sssh! Ben will get mad!
To late..
 
> It must be a common trait.
possably,... and in the same city to, i wonder..

anyway the point was, although i really like the 1.3 developer kits,
there really is not much point including them now, nor the CDTV stuff.
Its just so obsolete its silly.

And i know it hardly fills the CD anyway, but they are a waste of
cd-burning time. You may as well include the amiga port of EGCS, libnix
etc, stuff that someone might use without the aid of time travel.

Anyone know where I can buy a copy of this from?  Or
if there's a website for it?
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Hello All,

I was just wondering if anyone knew what is going on with the BVision
cards. I 
have heard similar things from most of the dealers. This is that DCE are
supposed to be taking over production of the BVisionPPC, does anyone
know this 
to be true?

If it is true does anyone know when they will become available again ?

I believe there many BlizzardPPC owners that are after these graphic
cards 
since they offer the best way of getting a graphics card affordably
into a 
already towered 1200.  

I have looked at other alternatives namely the Zorro IV card from Power
which
would be a good general expansion, since I can then have ethernet and
other 
expansions. This however remains a costly solution.

The AteoBus is also a contender but is limited to 2MB for graphics. I
would
also like to know more about the AteoBus so if you are an owner/user
why not
contact me with your opinions, or reply to this on the AFB.

Thanks

Fasih

P.S> Those of you who are going to Cologne have a good time.


Fasih Rehman                                                         
E-Mail: fasih@fasih.demon.co.uk                                      

Alan L.M. Buxey said, 

> On 9 Nov 1999, Neil Bothwick wrote:

>> Except U-NET (not Wirenet) decided to drop 0800 a week before this
>> announcement was made by BT.

> err, yes...but they probably knew what was coming...

That was my first thought, but I now doubt it's the case.

I also suspect that BT have had this package arranged for quite some
time, holding out on releasing it until they couldn't possibly avoid it.


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
"Good Enough" is the death knell of progress.

matt_madmatt said, 

>> to be honest, i had the same problem..but i actually did the obvious
>> thing and emailed the authors.

> I tried emailing makecd@core.de as mentioned in the doc but it just
> bounced back.

Try the mailing list, questions are answered pretty quickly. You don't
even need to wait for the authors to respond, there's bound to be
someone else that's hit and solved this problem.

>> > Second problem is that I only seem to be able to store a maximum of
> 628
>> > meg of data onto a cd.  What happend to the maximum of 650megs.  I
>> > checked on of the Amigaactive cds and it has 651megs stored in
>> > Datamode.  Just for the sake of this test I made an image of this
> track
>> > and tried to write it back to a blank cdr. This would not work as
>> > makecd claimed that there is not enough room on the cdr, so how did
>> > thay get 651 on the cd.

Does this happen with different brands of CD-R? There are slight
variations in capacity, although none should be that low (except maybe a
CD-RW). I only use branded CD-Rs (mainly TDK and Kodak) because I know I
can go a few MB over without a problem. The AACDs are burned in DAO
mode, otherwise it won't all fit on.

> The partition I use for cd usage has a blocksize of 2048 which I assume
> will give me a more relighable way of knowing how much will fit on the
> cd.

Probably, but there are other differences too. FFS is more wasteful of
disk space than ISO9960, so a data CD will use less space than the same
files use on an FFS partition. Particularly, FFS stores a separate
header block for each file, at 2K a time on your setup.


Neil
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       keep at least a part of their desks clean.

Hi Ant's,

> Anyone know where I can buy a copy of this from?  Or
> if there's a website for it?

In the UK you can buy it from HiSoft or Eyetech, in German you can buy it
from Schatztruhe and in Australia you can get it from GPSoftware.

You can alos get it direct if you go to the DOpus website which is at
http://www.gpsoft.com.au

All the best,
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> This is that DCE are
> supposed to be taking over production of the
> BVisionPPC, does anyone
> know this 
> to be true?
> 
> If it is true does anyone know when they will become
> available again ?
> 

More importantly, how about the BlizzardPPC boards?  I
want a BVision, but I haven't got the accelerator to
stick it in!  phase 5 are missing out on some serious
money here.

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>I have Miami(DX), but don't know how to configure it. On the Mac Side I
have OT and I'm using Hotline FTP >server and address 192.168.1.1. Subnet
mask 255.255.255.0 (Those numbers were a friend's advice, who is a >Mac
expert). On the Amiga I have a CN40BC card, when MiamiInit starts
configuring it, it reports an error >message saying "Miami is unable to open
device "cnet.device" unit 0. The device might be in use. Error 0"

Hi there,

I run a network here at home between my a1200T 603e+ and a P3 450 PC. At the
moment I'm still getting problems with os3.5, Miami Dx and Network
initilisation (the whole lot crashes) which never happened before under
os3.1.

However, to check the PCMCIA card to see if it's being seen by the Amiga -
use the PrepCard util. that can be found in your Tools drawer. If you see
the card details shown when you run PrepCard then the card is working.

Having done that I'd say that your problem is with the device driver you are
using. Over here I use a Hydra Ethernet Card supplied by Siamese Systems and
their hydrapcm.device used to work perfectly under os3.1.. Did you get the
driver from Aminet?
The card I have has the extra bit of kit attached that helps correct timing
problems associated with
the a1200's PCMCIA port. Have you got both ends of your ethernet cable
terminated?! If you are using the BNC connectors you need T-Pieces and
terminator resistors. I stupidly made this mistake and I still think it's
rather daft to have to need these - if you use phone socket style connectors
then T-Pieces and resistors arn't needed

The TCP networking figures you've given look correct. However, on the Mac
side you also have to tell the machine the gateway address (there should be
a gateway window in your Mac network settings) which will be your Amiga IP
and that should be 192.168.1.2. To use your Amiga as the dial up host
machine to share the Mac over the same internet connection, you also need to
tell the Mac what DNS Servers to look up and those should be listed in Miami
Dx in the DNS Servers database. Even if these numbers are assigned as
dynamic they usually remain the same so entering the assigned addresses to
the Mac side should only need to be done once.

In addition to this you need to set items on the TCP/IP menu in Miami Dx.

Gateway should be ticked - Allow source routing should be ticked - T/TCP
should be ticked. Then, click on LAN-Connect..... Socks0 should be ticked -
IP NAT should be on Internal - tick FTP and IRC-DCC.

Once done that should be it.

Once those figures have been added, the Amiga should be able to hook up to
the Internet and when Ethernet is working the Mac should be able to talk to
the Amiga and think it's also on the Internet itself when the Amiga is
online.

When it works it's really neat because you can web surf on the Mac and use
the Amiga for IRC and e-mail or really whatever combination you want. The
only slight problem I found was DCC'ing on the PC through the network
however I think mIRC is to blame. I've not used FTP clients to access my
network because I use Amiga Explorer - it came with Amiga Forever and allows
the PC to access not only all the hard drives but it allows you to take ROM
images, make .adf files by drag and drop on the desktop and you can also
access the Amiga's Ram Disk which means you have a Ram Disk for your PC ;o)
Very handy to have if you have plenty of spare ram on the Amiga Side.

The network is nicely fast though peaks at about 550kps which is the fault
of the a1200 and it's relatively slow PCMCIA port. By the way, one handy
tip - if you use an IRC client on both sides when on the Internet you can
use DCC to send between the machines. You should see the cps rate fly :o)

Hope this helps.

Stephen.
Founder of #AmigaZone on Dalnet IRC - Meetings 10pm Daily

Sent by my lousy, god forsaken, unstable PC :o)

Amiga running with a1200T os3.5 603e+ 040/25 and 160MHz PPC... and
Blizzvision GFX Card with lots of stuff attached and Siamese Ethernet v2.5
to a TCP networked Net sharing slave AMD K6-3 450MHz PC.. taking Amiga
Computing further :o)

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On 9 Nov 1999, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >   Spill the beans then.  (Not from the trash can though fnar!)  What is
> > this TTrash gonna be then?  
> 
> Unstable?
> 
> SCNR :)

  The French rail company?    			;)


bye,
  Chris

> I was just wondering if anyone knew what is going on with the BVision
> cards. I have heard similar things from most of the dealers. This is
that   > DCE are supposed to be taking over production of the
BVisionPPC, does anyone > know this to be true?

See message 36384.

> If it is true does anyone know when they will become available again ?
> 
> I believe there many BlizzardPPC owners that are after these graphic
> cards since they offer the best way of getting a graphics card
affordably
> into a already towered 1200.

Exactly! I went to WOA to buy the whole kit (PPC+BVision) but no one
had BVisions, damn it! Oh well, when Wipeout arrives shortly, at least
I can look at the screenshots on the case (sniff!).

Paul
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On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 matt_madmatt@hotmail.com wrote:

> No, that was just for the sake of the test. I would not pirate amiga
> software.

well, thats okay then ;-)

one tip: stop using non standard block size. Use the 512 Amiga FFS block
size, this is what i use and i have no problems with backing up my files

alan

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:

> mask 255.255.255.0 (Those numbers were a friend's advice, who is a Mac
> expert). On the Amiga I have a CN40BC card, when MiamiInit starts
> configuring it, it reports an error message saying "Miami is unable to open
> device "cnet.device" unit 0. The device might be in use. Error 0"
> 
> Both Link and TX/RX leds are on. Link led is green and TX/RX is amber.
> 
> I have tried using FUSION and installing MacOS7.5 and MacTCP and Anarchie
> Pro as the FTP client, I got error -43 file not found , on the Mac side OT
> and Hotline ftp server.

this is your PCMCIA controller - you need to fiz it - its the RESET line
that causes the problem. 
 
alan

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 amimjf@hotmail.com wrote:

> And i know it hardly fills the CD anyway, but they are a waste of
> cd-burning time. You may as well include the amiga port of EGCS, libnix
> etc, stuff that someone might use without the aid of time travel.

from the list, i find hardly anything that is a waste of time. it
*would* be useful to have more SDK's on the  though...especially Net
related ones...and libnix, ixemul etc

alan